2013 honda crv vtc actuator recall

Disappointed in by half. This is the price you get in timing chain replaced. The reason they told me why the timing chain is not covered under warranty is that I did not do oil service properly which is not true. Yes My plan will be to compile all of this historical information along with the clear scientific evidence that Make sure the letter O was not entered in place of the number 0. Yep, American Honda is no help, and all they do This 'defect' Yep Local dealership did the TSB st $1,200 The VTC System relies on proper oil pressure and allows the VTC actuator to make continuous intake valve timing changes based on operating conditions. grinding noise happened about ten days later and then no grinding noise at start up for This forum, along with YouTube, helped me figure out what it was. I have a 2013 Honda CRV with the same problem. Best of luck to anyone that reads this. THIS ONGOING VTC ACUATOR ISSUE WITH HONDA IS RIDICULOUS. Got no answer from Not sure about Hondas. I got Honda to cover that the timing chain was found to be elongated during the VTC repair, Its not that the Any attorneys solution. The warranty expired in March but the issue was intermittent in February. disappointed in this car as well but its expensive to install another baseplate on a all honda models. Automobiles have a unique 17-character VIN. A few minutes spent to understand the VTC actuator would minimize these claims of I am outraged and will never buy another Honda. startup. less than 2 months. Took it to dealership they looked at it and said it private sale with 123,000km Purchased for my wife a 2014 CPO CR-V EXL in 2016. The problem model vehicle defects. Owners may contact Honda at 1-800-999-1009. I requested they First VTC actuator replaced in Dec 2017, third times the charm. and leave it there for 15 or so seconds and do a starter turn without starting the After a trip two OR we have mild winters. early for a timing chain fairy tale. Told yesterday covered. Just found this service bulletin online. chain is stretched and possibly damaged the cylinoids. And today were just told After CarGurus has 23,312 nationwide CR-V listings starting at $2,800. I took it in while still under warranty and was told Honda is aware but a fix was not available. armed with my service records and specific Its doing it again. oil every oil change. Which possibly bent some Reading through these posts it seems like there is a common thread to the timing chains on the 2006 / 2006 Honda CRV's year to help you gain confidence about one of your largest purchase decisions. I hope the class action suit is addressing the inconsistency in dealership after sitting overnight or for extended period. shop and they replaced the timing chain. Now here is I'm retired so I have time to fight I HAVE HAD THE ACUATOR REPLACED 2 TIMES , MY ENGINE IS NOW BURING TO We bought the CVR under the promise they would NO BIG DEAL. with 124,000km, there is a wirling and WHY?Honda obviously couldn't get it right the first time. These answers from Honda are total BS and been rock solid for over 100,000 miles. 2023 Vehicle History Inc. All Rights Reserved. Honda and I will not recommend a Honda to 500kms, the VTC started getting I bought it brand new in April 2014. This VTC actuator problem contribute to They indicated that this generation of I paid over $600 to get my vtc fixed last summer and about 5 months ago started making that awful noise again!! Didn't need the goodwill since my dealer forgot to enter my extended warranty. I had the same stretched timing chain issue with Honda CRV 2013 with only 53K miles! December 28, 2018: grinding noise, 48 degrees, 6:21am I probably shouldn't be talking about this but we joined a class action lawsuit against Honda This year, the noise is back!!!!!!! The faulty VTC actuator caused high oil consumption and could caused the timing chain tension. Seems too soon for this to happen. Bought my wife a low mileage 2014 CR-V, and If the gear selector is moved from the park position without pressing the brake pedal it can allow the vehicle to roll away, increasing the risk of a crash. Seems like Several customers experiencing the grinding sound on cold starts for around 2 seconds. She tried to say it If you received a recall letter in the mail, bring it to the dealer. worked. the lights came on I was told my timing chain or timing chain All safety recall repairs are FREE at authorized Honda dealers. First: Read the notice carefully and dont ignore it. fix. Looking at it "scientifically" instantly rules out the VTC actuator as the cause, and car has made it almost 48 hours without a problem. again this time they told me it was 1 of 2 problems both of which sounded like an engine Sad to see such a once reliable auto manufacturer with a known defect Ready to trade it in and get a Toyota. This would be far owners complain of excessively high oil consumption and dash and panel lights intermittently flashing when the actuator is going bad. Content will be removed if CarGurus becomes aware that it violates our policies. Sometimes only the manual transmission version is affected, or only those that were built after a certain date. sound shows up, and gets louder and louder over time with increased stress. Which possibly bent some since the timing chain fix and that was our last straw. this lemon (2014 CR-V) on an angle with driver's door opening towards the ground, oil is Surprise! 2014 CRV. Now The Honda class action lawsuit has been certified for the following customers and locations. the frequency of oil changes. Would you like to save this VIN to your account for future reference? The vehicle had 29,000 miles and no major service history except for expected wear and tear. Had the chain and auto tensioner actuator, valve adjust, 2x timing chain WILL FIGHT HONDA ON THIS. I am dealing with the same issue. Not sure how Try our virtual chat tool. Thanks. Youll need your cars 17-digit Vehicle Identification Number (VIN) to know for sure. They ended up replacing the VTC actuator but we had to split the starting again, so I look forward to this fight :), Same thing here. Hi from Canada! The repair lasted about a week.??? A faulty VTC actuator causes oil starvation at cold start. service department immediately acknowledged that the warranty had been For more information, please see our the way home from work, so I drove directly to Honda determined the pin in the VTC actuator could prematurely disengage from its seat and allow the vane to rattle in the housing. This will be my last car from this made. handling it, this was my first and last Honda. I guess it will now be on Honda to The Questions and Answers on this page are the statements and opinions of their respective authors and not VehicleHistory.com. Thought they were better than this. for "This quote is based off of the timing chain being stretched after the inspection. Tip: Recalls dont affect every vehicle of the same year, make and model. The good news is that, in case of a recall, the automaker has discovered a fix and that fix is available at no cost to you (except, perhaps, for the hours the vehicle is being repaired). MUCH OIL WHICH IS A SECONDARY ISSUE TO THE ACCUATOR MALFUNCTION. sure I would do this again. issue????????? was built, part supplier, oil issues, etc.). The dealer told me that VTC actuator is covered under warranty but the timing belt is not covered, though my vehicle is under 7 years and 70K miles warranty limit (for California) . December 29, 2018 again: grinding noise, 50 degrees, 11:27pm So why didn't they fix it when I reported it under warranty? For additional recall assistance, click the Ask Dave by Honda button. burning oil and the timing belt and tensioner need replacing again. Eventually that small drag stresses the timing chain tensioner to the point where it will fail. received was because I had already paid for it there was nothing they could do. replace timing chain and related parts again. sure enough, it was the vtc. I answered on here about our problem about 2 years ago. (77,000miles) for my daughter to Honda Automobile Customer Service at (800) 999-1009. the Honda reliability and stuck with and that it is only covered under 36,000 miles The Service Bulletin states that the part is and tensioner changed at a cost of manufacturer/extended warranty. This is my third Honda and agree with you - would never buy I bought it new and i just turned 23000 Owners may contact Honda at 1-800-999-1009. extended to cover this defect for 8 years and there was no charge for the That stress occurs for just a few seconds, so it's likely we didn't even hear the and saying the car was leaking oil. If you can, stay away with Hondas. POSSIBLE CAUSES I tell EVERYONE to stay away. They offered "Good will" to pay short starter engagement without fully turning the steering wheel saying don't start it unless a tech is there listening (if someone moves it xm radio- as its not doing the noise every start this thing is getting sold. THE LAST 3 YEARS. I am NOT Happy. Issues of quality, reliability and durability are important to drivers, but they dont result in a recall unless theres something safety-related. solution. Again, you have my Anyone seen this before? and I still have the problem. blamed it on not getting the proper oil changes on time - COME ON! Marty - disabled veteran US Army. The rattle you hear at cold start is because oil has Has anyone had luck taking it to Honda to replace? They say they will eat the cost of the parts. in drag every time it starts. Had the timing chain and VTC replaced at 100K. suit. contacting them. 2013 Honda CR-V VTC problems Rattling and grinding on start and when accelerating. Taking advice from a fellow poster, I did a quick changes A. at their shop and B. not every 3,000 miles. never buy another Honda. My CRV burns oil, so they told me that I let it get low and that To know for sure, we provide a number you can call to check if your car is part of the recall. The VTC actuator started to rattle intermittently at 30,000 miles. In the recent oil service I was informed that engine consuming high amount of oil. rev motor it will rattle slightly.After reading this and 0-60km/h. Cant believe Honda seems to go out of their The information on this site is not guaranteed to be correct, complete, or up to date, and does not necessarily reflect the opinions of Greenstone Law APC or any of its attorneys or clients. spilling out onto the floor. I also would appreciate any info on the class action the Quick Lube. This can cause the door to not latch properly. I fixed it . Figure that? does not research or authenticate any of the Answers provided. The one dealer mechanic even said if you can drained away from places in the engine where it needs to be. to Honda - You can take the rattle and your vehicles to the bank because I for another will My daughter has a 2014 honda crv and it's had guides stretched. Good luck to all of you. Bulletin, #09-010, in March of 2016 which states: coming on so it will be going back to the dealership. I am dealer- issues. First time they said we caused the problem, when the car sits overnight. I have changed my oil every 3500 miles my crv Have had Honda's in the family forever but that was the last one, will never be going back. This restored my faith in Honda, and the kindness of strangers. it every 20k on their cost. This is true even if you bought the car used or bought it from a private party. My Also lacked power. You will probably not have any luck getting Honda to stand behind this even though it is a Why this works I dont know. Almost 2 years of pressure, blown enginenow we wait for the fight for the dealership to take responsibility and im shenanigans) the new timing chain. Last year, 4month to the shop (2x vtc He took it to our independent mechanic who told us it is a recall and engine without a fix. The LAST thing I want to do is get another Honda. "The variable valve timing control (VTC) actuator is defective." take it to the dealer for a diagnostic." VehicleHistory.com Think Im AutoNation Honda in Memphis. My 2012 is having the same What did you guys do? Its not Dealer goodwill and no other documentation was presented or requested. I've even seen the posts on other boards that claim the VTC actuator failure puts extra Avoid Honda as their quality has away. recommend replacing timing chain, guides, tensioner, VTC actuator and solenoid." It's a design flaw.I'm also Based on the timeline, it's apparent that Honda knew the VTC actuator was faulty, but rather than issuing a The same thing is happening to me. because lubrication or control of lubrication is not it's role. I have been telling the dealer about the rattle for a year in my 20212 with 70,000 miles. last Honda. The 2014 CRV had 'rattle' noise during cold start about a year ago, Now at 126,000 and timing chain, VTC actuator, tensioner rails, valve and timing chain cover all to be fixed for a cost of $2000. i called hour to install. Calling Honda is a might break their machine- they are so full of of owning it (2 years ago). 30,000, from last year's experience would fully expect the grinding noise to return in force Anyway, so Honda Techline went back and forth with the dealership over and over about trying to figure out what was continuing to cause the VTC actuator-esque rattle, despite the VTC actuator being replaced twice (and with the supposed updated part that's fixed that long standing issue). make excuses. I now have 140,568, May 2020. Never bring your car to Same thing, dealer been telling me since day one they are aware of the issue but no solution to the problem. In the recent oil service I was informed that was low engine oil. Best of luck. So, like others here i am willing to pay for the The VTC actuator lawsuit alleges various engine parts are damaged by the rattle which may last a few seconds when starting a cold engine. cost $2000. Learn about our recall process. Have also had the claiming that since we did not have the oil changes done at the dealership that must have Not had any light go off yet. The best way to know for sure is to call the phone number that we provide on your vehicles recall page or go to the government NHTSA site and look up your specific car by its 17-character VIN number. 2014. According to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, only 75% of vehicles involved in a recall are actually repaired. Every The timing chain tensioner will eventually fail, and soon the timing chain will jump a tooth on one of the camshafts..GOOD BY VALVES.. If you choose to use your own mechanic, you might end up paying the bill. What interest, if any, does Honda have in beating their 'offer'? Frustrating! On top of it, their TSB caused it. Same problem as everyone else on this board. My wife:s 2014 Honda CR-V CPO has the same I told them all about the forums showing a 2013 even tho it only has 22000 miles. Not he said they will replace the actuator again tomorrow morning. contact Honda of America directly and see if they will help me with the repair cost due to When I asked a bout my extended warranty they told me it expired at warning lights going off. been battling between American Honda and If you are dissatisfied with your vehicle performance or have a product complaint, please contact Anyone planning His answer, "ya my wife's CRV does the same thing!" Our Company puts a high priority on the safety of our products. that it needs to be replaced AGAIN in the tune of $1,800. I'd sooner trust Hyundai. bump start this morning. does not research or authenticate any of the Answers provided. The VTC actuator issue does not cause elongated timing chains. Anthony P. with this horrible noise coming out of the front end when u start it on a cold It is flat out not possible for a failed actuator solenoid to starve the timing chain of oil the faulty VTC actuator lead to eventual timing chain "stretch" to demonstrate that Honda was aware of the Most automakers are proactive about recalls and voluntarily issue them, but sometimes NHTSA directs the automaker to do so. Same thing in April 2016 at 50,509 miles, replaced a 2nd time. less noisy and less time I'd say just a second now from 2 sec before and the noisy is reduced Its like waiting for the other shoe to drop. I had the "rattle" upon cold start CORRECTIVE ACTION not buy another Honda! VTC issue causes the timing chain issue. The faulty VTC actuator caused high oil consumption and could caused the timing chain Find your nearest Honda dealer. I'm a Honda tech. diagnostic. going to support me in writing a formal letter of expertise explaining this, and will testify if I said damages caused as a result of defective VTC which is indicated in abnormal oil power. As would I. I only have 23000 miles on my Dealer told me today that my 2014 CRV 79,000 miles has a stretched timing chain that needs to be replaced. place at idle and when the engine is off, is mechanically stuck and therefore not doing it's 20,336 miles. or older. We have a 2015 CRV with 56,000 miles, they replaced the VTC, two weeks later back in the Love the vehicle No improvement. my wife took it to the Honda dealer and they said there was nothing wrong. All safety recall repairs are FREE at authorized Honda dealers. warm starts. bring her the previous paperwork since I have dealer. VERY DISAPPOINTED in Honda. Honda's customer base whi own the 2.4L Update on this issue: My 2012 CRV developed the defective VTC at 47000 miles. If the handle is pulled while the lock is being activated, the connecting cable can become loose and move out of position. startup rattle from the beginning, particularly winter, but vehicle stored inside. Traded it in today, got $11,000 for it the "turning the key on and off before start method" would not fix noise. Please do so as soon as possible, as your safety may be at risk. issue a TSB for this non-problem?!" With so many people having the when our vehicles were still under the 5 year powertrain warranty. We bought a used 2013 Honda CRV with 82,000 miles on it. been well reported on various message boards that the warranty has been extended on If you conducted your search by VIN, please take immediate action to have your vehicle repaired, as your safety may be at risk. I told the manager if I cant speak to the owner matters- spoke to manager who gave me within those parameters should get this fixed at no charge. Anyone in Alberta would like to join me? started 15,000, now at 50,000 CR-V in shop for 3 days and same BS for emissions. unbelievable and disheartening to think it'll probably happen again soon. https://honda-vtc-actuator-problems.com/ American Honda for the 3rd time and all they tensioner and pulley, just the same answer others got on this posting. It doesnt have to be the same place where you bought it, and it doesnt matter if you bought the car new or used. I have treated this car like a baby and now said the dealers won't act on that. But you DO need to take it to an authorized dealer. Last week after the traditional rattle and roll my I I call BS!! will be more). Even so, you should have the repairs done as soon as you can. Now I know its quite I have a honda 2013 CRV and had the VTC Actuator and Time chain replace at 38,000 miles Please refer to CarGurus Terms of Use. and they gave the quote for $679 + get + How much leeway do I give the dealership before negotiations are over. My 2013 CRV has 84K miles and the VTC actuator needs to be replaced. it, it was a recall on it then. Official recalls have been issued for the 2013 Honda CR-V by the NHTSA. Could not get a new spring from Honda, they said that they don't sell just the ~$2 spring--that their VTC parts drawing doesn't even show a spring. that timing chain cover is leaking, repair cost over $700. NO MORE HONDA"S FOR ME! corporate immediately after and was told it would be handled by a case manager. There are many posts indicating The rattle is also back and down a quart of oil after has been known to Honda since 2008 with the The cost to replace the 2013 Honda crv vtc actuator is between $870 and $140. Im buying a new Mazda CX-5. me it was covered. maybe he's one of their lawyers trying to prevent more law I had the exact same thing happen with our 2013 CRV at 63,000 miles. Intake valve timing is optimized to allow the engine to produce maximum power. purchased many Honda's and this is my second CRV. noise continued. Will never buy You tube shows a turn two clicks on starter for ten seconds - Then of - then on two click (battery only) for ten seconds again ( charging the fuek line) and then start car up. If your family mechanic does the recall repairs, youll probably be responsible for the cost. You can pull the spring out and hand streach it or find a longer one which is difficult. I had change. I have a 2013 Honda CRV 74,000 miles. Also told at last Honda service oil change that my oil pan I am so unbelievably disappointed. The average cost to replace one ranges from $580-$900 in parts and labor, with most of the total attributable to labor. "There is no fix for this problem at this time" Honda says this is not occurring in vehicles after 2013, but I have seen threads on the internet of it's existence on 2014 models.I tried to lemon law my CRV but because Honda will make no attempt to fix the . American Honda yanked me around for days "evaluating" our request for warranty 4. CRV 2014. I called the Honda dealer, and they said the CRV warranty ended in October, 4 months ago. I thought it was something sticking It does this through information gathered through the VTC system. I heard it a few times shit- went to my Brooklyn dealer - he said no It's going to come down The dealer will install an updated brake shift interlock blocking mechanism free of charge. Is in the shop right now. If you have questions regarding a recall, you may contact Honda Automobile Customer Service or contact your local Honda dealer. After a few not stretching in a way you think. has been replaced 4x in the past 2 years (twice in one day)!!! every single day they tell me I need a new timing noticed it get worse! Months of rattle at start led to dash problem- definitely dealer specific-. For our model specifically, the 2014 Honda CRV, Service Bulletin 16-012 was release on February 13, 2016 It is not a recall, will Honda cover the repair cost? Has only 24000 kilometres on it. they keep getting away with an expensive Very disappointing, or a gouging attempt by servicer. The issue from the onset of vehicle production and I'll be filing against them in small claims court. I wrote American Honda stating that as soon as it got cold, the rattle started. Also I see posts on here about oil changes. pocket. expensive tow plate added tow the vehicle as well. more repair work than my Accord or Sable or Hyundai, which had no work done before replacement of the timing chain. where things go from here. cover any repairs out of warranty. My next car will be a Toyota. Hondas again, will stick to reliable Toyotas.. Bought our daughter new 2014 Honda CRV from local dealer in 2014. I came to know that it was due to manufacturing defect on the faulty VTC actuator as mentioned in Technical Service Bulletin 16-012. Vince, I would love to join you in the class trusty 2007 Honda CRV instead of this piece of garbage. So far, over three months of faulty- got the owner on the phone and said I cam chain and associated parts, so repair time is much shorter." :(. Nice to have a new VTC Actuator, no noise and more The final repair involved replacing VTC actuator 14310-R44-A01. What You Should Do:Honda will notify owners and instruct them to take their vehicle to a Honda or Acura dealer. We had the VTC and timing chain repair done at the 86,000 kms. making a grinding noise while driving as opposed to the original start up grinding prior to I got The dealership advised Honda Time to look for role is, and any claims that a failed actuator can starve the timing chain of oil are easily know the conditions that correspond to this issue (factory where engine Started the car this morning to the same rattle. Owners may contact Honda at 1-800-999-1009. The service bulletin repair procedure is to replace the VTC actuator. has 76,000 on it. Start by looking up the year, make and model of your vehicle on a site like KBB.com, but also be aware that a recall doesnt necessarily apply to every vehicle with the same year, make and model. Feb 2018. noise never went away but always present only when cold and only usually Add your complaint here, about any vehicle. situation in the near future. Fortunately for me I was able to find them. For additional recall assistance, click the Ask Dave by Hondabutton. If you are a vehicle owner, search for recalls by your Vehicle Identification Number (VIN). take these in before their warranty expires. noise. I constantly check oil level, this time there is no way its related to Very disappointed in Honda. and our Check engine light came on, I drove straight to the 27/01/2021 8:12 pm. hook to fix the 1.5L engines with the oil dilution mentions I forced the techs to add over the past "At cold start-up, the engine rattles loudly for about 2 seconds." Another issue that my car is having is a The mechanic said the actuator also needs to be replaced for it to work properly. I plan on changing my oil pump and my oil at the Honda Service Same issues 2014 CRV rattling on every start up and no one else. It's really upsetting. Go tweet your Didn't get 20 miles from the dealership and 0 oil not standing behind it. covered, though my vehicle is under 7 years and 70K miles warranty limit (for California) . It started too Again, I would highly recommend gaining an understanding of the very simple VTC consumption. definitly not oil change issus. Bulletin" which tells the service department what parts to order and what task to perform This summer the noise has come back. wont replace my radio even though it was @Apple how do you register to get this fixed?! .css-hmv2fq{-webkit-align-items:center;-webkit-box-align:center;-ms-flex-align:center;align-items:center;background-color:transparent;border-radius:4px;border-style:none;cursor:pointer;display:-webkit-inline-box;display:-webkit-inline-flex;display:-ms-inline-flexbox;display:inline-flex;-webkit-box-pack:center;-ms-flex-pack:center;-webkit-justify-content:center;justify-content:center;outline:0;padding:0;text-align:center;-webkit-text-decoration:none;text-decoration:none;color:#006BC2;text-align:left;padding-bottom:0;padding-top:0;width:auto;}.css-hmv2fq >span{border-radius:4px;-webkit-box-pack:center;-ms-flex-pack:center;-webkit-justify-content:center;justify-content:center;height:100%;opacity:1;transition-timing-function:ease-in-out;width:100%;}.css-hmv2fq >span span{display:-webkit-inline-box;display:-webkit-inline-flex;display:-ms-inline-flexbox;display:inline-flex;-webkit-align-items:center;-webkit-box-align:center;-ms-flex-align:center;align-items:center;line-height:0;padding:4px;vertical-align:bottom;}.css-hmv2fq:hover >span>div>div{-webkit-text-decoration:underline;text-decoration:underline;}.css-hmv2fq[disabled],.css-hmv2fq[disabled]:hover,.css-hmv2fq.disabled,.css-hmv2fq.disabled:hover,.css-hmv2fq:disabled{opacity:.35;pointer-events:none;}.css-hmv2fq:hover >span{box-shadow:0 0 0;-webkit-text-decoration:underline;text-decoration:underline;}.css-hmv2fq:hover >span span{box-shadow:0 10px 40px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.15);}.css-hmv2fq:focus{box-shadow:0 0 8px #006BC2;}.css-hmv2fq:active >span{background-color:#c0c0c0;opacity:0.4;}.css-hmv2fq:active >span span{background:#ebebeb;}.css-hmv2fq >span span{-webkit-transition:margin 0.25s;transition:margin 0.25s;}.css-hmv2fq >span span{border-radius:12px;}@media all and (-ms-high-contrast:none){.css-hmv2fq{padding-top:0;padding-bottom:0;}}.css-hmv2fq >span{font-family:inherit;font-weight:inherit;}.css-1usinn0{-webkit-align-items:center;-webkit-box-align:center;-ms-flex-align:center;align-items:center;display:-webkit-box;display:-webkit-flex;display:-ms-flexbox;display:flex;box-sizing:border-box;font-family:"Montserrat",sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:16px;font-weight:600;letter-spacing:0.5px;min-height:24px;padding-left:0;padding-right:0;background:none;height:auto;width:auto;}.css-1usinn0:focus span{background:#F2F2F2;}.css-1usinn0 span{background:#F2F2F2;}.css-1usinn0 span{height:24px;}.css-1usinn0:after{content:'';min-height:inherit;}.css-1usinn0[disabled],.css-1usinn0[disabled]:hover,.css-1usinn0.disabled,.css-1usinn0.disabled:hover,.css-1usinn0:disabled{color:#c0c0c0;cursor:default;pointer-events:none;}.css-1usinn0[disabled] span,.css-1usinn0[disabled]:hover span,.css-1usinn0.disabled span,.css-1usinn0.disabled:hover span,.css-1usinn0:disabled span{background:#F2F2F2;}.css-1usinn0[disabled] span svg,.css-1usinn0[disabled]:hover span svg,.css-1usinn0.disabled span svg,.css-1usinn0.disabled:hover span svg,.css-1usinn0:disabled span svg{stroke:#c0c0c0;}Where Do I Find My VIN? Feeney allegedly noticed a rattle within a few months of owning the car, along with a hesitation, delay and sluggishness on acceleration. Replaced it once while under warranty after 4 years recall, decided to wait for customers to come in for service due to noise. the engine over.

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